This is our pepper grinder, we don't have salt and pepper shakers anymore. We like the freshly ground pepper and we rarely use salt anymore. When we do it comes from the box. This was a bit difficult for me because the grinder is made of translucent plastic with silver trimmings. I'm not familiar with painting either one of those. But that's why they are "challenges" rather than "easies". I learned a lot about looking carefully for reflections and shadows. An excellent learning experience, using watercolor pencils and Pigma pen in an Aquabee sketchbook. The reflections and shadows are not showing up very well in the scan, however.